{"id":612,"date":"2008-10-14T19:25:02","date_gmt":"2008-10-14T23:25:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.citizennetmom.com\/?p=612"},"modified":"2008-10-14T20:31:00","modified_gmt":"2008-10-15T00:31:00","slug":"liveblogging-charter-commission-forum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.citizennetmom.com\/?p=612","title":{"rendered":"Liveblogging: Charter Commission Forum"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>First, the rules: no questions will be allowed that are directed to a particular candidate.&nbsp; Questions are screened to eliminate redundancy.&nbsp; Opening remarks are limited to two minutes, and answers to questions are limited to a minute and a half.&nbsp; No video recording is allowed; the media is allowed to tape the forum, but are not allowed to permit the recording to be altered in any way, nor used for any candidate advertising.<\/p>\n<p>Gene Caldwell, Pat Postma, and Dave McCoy had their opening comments read by representatives, as they were unable to be here.<\/p>\n<p>Each candidate makes an opening comment.&nbsp; Of the first six, Chuck Agle is the first to stay within his time limit, but finding time to remind the audience of our history with district elections &#8212; that candidates were elected with fewer than 100 votes, and that in 1971, more than half of the council races (seven of twelve) were <em>uncontested<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Ella Dubose compares the city to a computer, with the City Charter as the operating system.&nbsp; We&#8217;re charged now with determining whether an &quot;upgrade&quot; is needed, especially since all software doesn&#8217;t work with all systems.<\/p>\n<p>Scott Linn, a history teacher at Jefferson Middle School, says it&#8217;s essential to be open minded and reasonable when considering changes to the City Charter.&nbsp; District representation didn&#8217;t work &#8212; Oak Ridge can&#8217;t afford to experiment with failed policies.&nbsp; We need to work together.<\/p>\n<p>Mike Mahathy points out that challenges are opportunities, but the future of Oak Ridge rests in the results of this Charter Commission.<\/p>\n<p>Mary Helen rose recalls that she was the recording secretary for the last Charter Commission, and served on the Charter Review Committee last year.&nbsp; &quot;When I&#8217;m unhappy with Council, it&#8217;s usually because I don&#8217;t like one of their decisions, but I doubt that I would be any happier if they were elected by district, or if there were nine instead of seven.&quot; <\/p>\n<p>*&nbsp; *&nbsp; *<\/p>\n<p>Questions from the local media are next on the agenda.&nbsp; Stan Mitchell, publisher of the Oak Ridge Observer, asks first:<\/p>\n<p>Because the current City Council is elected at large, it has been said that this leads to some areas being unfairly represented.<\/p>\n<p>Abbatiello: Both forms of government are representative; it&#8217;s just a different technique.&nbsp; Districts create yet another sub group.&nbsp; It can work reasonably well, until you never have enough candidates to compete.&nbsp; Our primary issues are citywide, and we need to find the technique that allows us to focus on these citywide issues.<\/p>\n<p>Burns: Two recent decisions were on the mall, and on Crestpoint.&nbsp; Council&#8217;s votes on those matters indicate that Council is not hearing, or not listening, to the people.<\/p>\n<p>Agle: During Abbatiello&#8217;s term, our tax rate remained relatively stable.&nbsp; If we changed to districts representation, there would be no hope of restraint in spending.<\/p>\n<p>Dittner: The Woodland hotel issue illustrates that the current Council is not working, that Council is not listening to neighborhoods.<\/p>\n<p>DuBose: I believe that our Council represents all of the city, and that they&#8217;re working on neighborhood revitalization.<\/p>\n<p>John Huotari asks, why districts?<\/p>\n<p>Fain: A broad opportunity for people to be listened to, strengthening the health of our democracy, would be supported by district representation.<\/p>\n<p>Flowers:&nbsp; There are pros and cons for district representation.&nbsp; You can get into some one-upsmanship, with Council members refusing to vote for a project because another district council member voted against a different project in their own district.&nbsp; &quot;If you don&#8217;t like the way the coach is calling the game, you don&#8217;t change the rules.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Humphries:<\/p>\n<p>Linn: what concerms me about district representation is that it takes away from the individual&#8217;s voting power.&nbsp; Now, we vote for 100% of council members; under the CDAR proposal, one would only be able to vote for up to four of nine.&nbsp; The Founding Fathers did provide for a blended government (districts for the lower house, at-large for the senate), but they also made the constitution very difficult to amend.&nbsp; It is a concern how easily our charter can be amended.<\/p>\n<p>Stan Mitchell asks if we need to raise the threshold for referendums.<\/p>\n<p>Mahathy: I believe that the standard for a referendum should be raised.<\/p>\n<p>Jones: Of course we need to have referendums.&nbsp; We wouldn&#8217;t have this call for change if they felt like they were being heard.<\/p>\n<p>Rose: I&#8217;m inclined to think that it should be a little more difficult to call for a referendum, especially for a Charter Commission.<\/p>\n<p>Schramm: Referendums are absolutely necessary.&nbsp; This is not the end of the process, it is the beginning.&nbsp; If we elect a Charter Commission<\/p>\n<p>Jjohn Huotari asks, what other issues do you think the Charter Commission ought to consider.<\/p>\n<p>Abbatiello: the democratic process is designed to garner input in a respectful manner.&nbsp; He outlines the sections of the charter, but does not answer the question.<\/p>\n<p>Burns: only interested in the district question.<\/p>\n<p>Agle: Need to point out the unintended consequences.&nbsp; Recent court rulings indicate that we may end up with a ruling that we must also have a district or hybrid school board.&nbsp; The charter is an opportunity to put into place some planning mechanisms.&nbsp; We have no real plan for growth going forward, so every time there&#8217;s an opportunity &#8212; it&#8217;s a surprise!&nbsp; We need to take the surprise out of the process.<\/p>\n<p>Dittner: I got into this only to discuss districts and the number of council members.<\/p>\n<p>DuBose: I think the things that should be considered is driven by the citizens.<\/p>\n<p>Stan Mitchell asks, who do you think runs this city, and do you think a strong mayor form of government should be considered?<\/p>\n<p>Fain: On the map of the city, there is a strong pattern of where Council members, as well as people who sit on city boards, live.&nbsp; There are neighborhoods that are seriously out of balance int he amount of power.&nbsp; (She didn&#8217;t answer the question).<\/p>\n<p>Flowers: With the City Manager form of government, you have a strong separation of powers.&nbsp; In a town this size, you&#8217;ve got to have someone whose administrative role is to attend to the day-to-day form of government.&nbsp; I&#8217;m a strong proponent of the City Manager form of government.<\/p>\n<p>Humphries: It should be the City Manager who runs the city, but Council meets only once per months.&nbsp; Now, they have a meeting before the meeting, which is better, because the other way looked too much like rubber-stamping the City Manager&#8217;s proposals.&nbsp; I have no personal feelings on the strong mayor form.<\/p>\n<p>Linn: a balance of legislative policy with city council and with the city manager dealing with the business seems to work well.&nbsp; I would be open-minded to look into something like that, but the current practice seems to work well.<\/p>\n<p>Iskander: If it ain&#8217;t broke, don&#8217;t fix it.&nbsp; But I think it is broken.<\/p>\n<p>Mahathy: If you&#8217;re not happy with the results, vote for a new Council.&nbsp; If elected, I will move to adjourn on the first meeting.<\/p>\n<p>Jones: 26 cities in Tennessee have a mixed form of government.&nbsp; She recalls that in Knoxville, a Council member named O&#8217;Connor favored at-large, and a council member named Cas Walker favored a mix of at large and districts.<\/p>\n<p>Rose:&nbsp; We keep hearing that we&#8217;re not represented, but I believe that our 7-member Council represents us well.&nbsp; When we are unhappy, it&#8217;s not because the Council member doesn&#8217;t live in our district, it&#8217;s because we&#8217;re unhappy with some decision that was made.<\/p>\n<p>Schramm: the previous charter commission didn&#8217;t even consider districts.&nbsp; Running at-large takes a lot of time, and more importantly, a lot of money.&nbsp; People who run are those with the deepest pockets.<\/p>\n<p>*&nbsp; *&nbsp; * (5-minute break) *&nbsp; *&nbsp; *<\/p>\n<p>Candidates have answered audience questions, but there wasn&#8217;t really any new information brought forth.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>First, the rules: no questions will be allowed that are directed to a particular candidate.&nbsp; Questions are screened to eliminate redundancy.&nbsp; Opening remarks are limited to two minutes, and answers to questions are limited to a minute and a half.&nbsp; &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.citizennetmom.com\/?p=612\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[12,3,16],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.citizennetmom.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/612"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.citizennetmom.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.citizennetmom.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.citizennetmom.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.citizennetmom.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=612"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.citizennetmom.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/612\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.citizennetmom.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=612"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.citizennetmom.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=612"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.citizennetmom.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=612"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}